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Pure Elegance Dress dforce by soup-sammich Pure Elegance Dress dforce by soup-sammich
UPDATE: This item does not play well with the Daz beta.

For anyone who downloads the file:


Contents are: A full d'force file setup ready for use after unzipping and copy/pasting the contents appropriately.  Copy the contents of the folder titled 'data' into your Daz 'data' folder and the 'People' folder somewhere you'll remember for import into Daz.

Here are some of the basics:
1. This is just the dress.  It is d'force, but it's not perfect (it's free, after all).  I haven't noticed any "explosion" issues, but the dress may not agree with the more extreme bends.  Feel free to tweak as necessary...
--1.a. It's still just the dress.  Which is still fairly long.  I still recommend your model wear heels.  Flats still won't do... ;) (Wink)  One thing I've noticed will help in the simulation: When doing the d'force simulation setup, hide the heels until after you've done the simulation.  You may need to do some tweaking to get the dress to drape right without poke through.  Or just fix poke through in post.
2. It only has the default texture that Marvelous Designer exports with the files.  You're on your own for the texturing...
4. The dress polygons are squares, so there are some minor "dimples" with some of the drapes.
5. The dress is fairly high poly, however, I've noticed that smoothing is required.  I've taken the liberty of setting that in the files, so you should be good to go.
6. I've also taken the liberty of setting the Contraction-Expansion Ratio to 90% to better simulate the results of the full dynamic version I upload next, tweak as needed.
7. This is a somewhat conforming item, but it's not very well done without the d'force simulation present.
8. This DOES require Daz version 4.10.  If you're still on 4.9 I cannot guarantee success.  I've heard it's possible, but I didn't try...
9. If you use the dress in a render, please credit me here on DA! (optional, but I'd like to see what you do with it :D (Big Grin) :D (Big Grin) :D (Big Grin))

Disclaimer: This is a free file, so it may need some tweaking from both our ends.  If you run into issues not being able to open the files in Daz, let me know.  If it's something I can fix, I will fix it and re-upload.  I unfortunately do not have the time to walk you through the processes for tweaking the cloth drapes and settings. 

Hope you enjoy the dress, and please let me see what you do with it! :D (Big Grin) Hug
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Shadow23d Featured By Owner Mar 31, 2018
Thanks for this wonderful piece of cloth Shareen 87 (4k) by Shadow23d :hug:
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soup-sammich Featured By Owner Mar 31, 2018  Hobbyist Digital Artist
You are most welcome! :hug:
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sodacan Featured By Owner Mar 30, 2018  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Had to do some manual tweaking and post-work. I think if I go through some tutorials to better understand this process, I can get a better result....

Devon - DForce Test by sodacan
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soup-sammich Featured By Owner Mar 30, 2018  Hobbyist Digital Artist
I find that the smoothing modifier under the Parameters tab can help with some of the poke-through issues...
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sodacan Featured By Owner Mar 30, 2018  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Yes, definitely. I use it all the time. The more I investigate, the more I realize, my issues are pretty much self inflicted!
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soup-sammich Featured By Owner Mar 30, 2018  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Self inflicted issues are the worst!  I can say, though, you're not alone when it comes to issues (self inflicted or otherwise) with dforce.  Compared to some of the other 3D clothing simulators I've used, dforce lands right in the middle...  Not the easiest to work with, not the hardest.  Better results than most, but still not as good as others.  There are a lot of settings that I haven't taken the time to figure out, and those I've tried seem to have little effect on the cloth simulation, or make things 10 times worse...  One of these days I'll figure it out (or find someone who's figured it already) :D
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sodacan Featured By Owner Mar 30, 2018  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Certainly better results than I gotten with their dynamic cloth. Just what little I know and see, it really appears to be aimed at animators as to opposed to still images....
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soup-sammich Featured By Owner Mar 30, 2018  Hobbyist Digital Artist
I've been with Daz since the original Genesis, and I've got to agree, things have come a LONG way!  Iray has been a game changer for realistic renders in my book.  I used to work almost exclusively with Carrara for realism, but it took a LOT of texture/light tweaking to get decent results.  With Iray, it's really easy to get decent looking images...
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sodacan Featured By Owner Mar 31, 2018  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Agreed. I've seen people get impressive results with 3delight but I never could. Uber lights, swsurface, I tried a lot of things. I used Reality for a while. I really liked it, but got a bug in software I could never resolve right about the time Daz added Iray.

Tried Poser several times, but I could never grasp the Poser interface, Daz seemed much more intuitive. Iray has been a huge upgrade. It's been a game changer for me.
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soup-sammich Featured By Owner Mar 31, 2018  Hobbyist Digital Artist
I never could understand how people got such incredible results with 3delight, either...  When I was big into Carrara (I still use it to create .obj files) I put Luxus for Carrara on my wish list, but by the time it went on sale again, Daz had kicked out Iray and Iray (in my opinion) destroys Luxus...

I never tried Poser.  I thought about it several times, but always got sticker shock...  Even after buying Carrara...
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romofrog Featured By Owner Nov 28, 2017  Hobbyist Digital Artist
These dresses you have made are fantastic thank you. You have inspired me to have a go again at making some content.

I am new to Dforce and every pose I have tried with the Pure elegance dress ends up with the right chest breast being revealed. do you or anyone have any tips?

Thanks again.
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soup-sammich Featured By Owner Nov 28, 2017  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Unfortunately, my experiences with dforce are not much better than yours. It took quite a while for me to find a pose that didn’t expose at least one breast in Daz Studio. I can recommend that your model have a more “upright” posture. Increasing the friction setting might help as well, but I don’t know how that might effect the drape over the legs...

I can tell you I’ll be experimenting with some things in Marvelous Designer and dforce tonight. If successful I’ll release a seperate version that may solve the issue.
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romofrog Featured By Owner Nov 28, 2017  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Thanks for the advice. I will have a play and let you know if I come up with some thing.
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soup-sammich Featured By Owner Nov 28, 2017  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Unfortunately, my experiments with dforce were not as successful as I had hoped.  I'll take a look at my original Marvelous Designer version and see if there's any tweaks I might be able to make.  Could you describe the poses that are giving you issues?
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soup-sammich Featured By Owner Nov 28, 2017  Hobbyist Digital Artist
I wish you nothing but success! If you find out anything, let me know and I’ll update the description or files as necessary! :)
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pygfaust Featured By Owner Nov 24, 2017  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Great job!
Would it be not too difficult to create a dress with an off-shoulder top and right sleeve like the OSD, and the skirt with a nice high slit like Pure Elegance?
(maybe call it "Impure Elegance" ;-) )
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soup-sammich Featured By Owner Nov 24, 2017  Hobbyist Digital Artist
One thing I’ve noticed about dforce, is that you absolutely need at least one shoulder for support, so it should be doable. I’ll add it to the list!
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pygfaust Featured By Owner Nov 24, 2017  Hobbyist Digital Artist
One early run I did on the OSD, not sure why, but gravity seemed to go nuts and it pulled the dress down so far that much more than her left shoulder was left bare!
(until it exploded, I was thinking is this a bug, or a feature?! ;-) (Wink)  But I couldn't replicate it later.)
I later found that Collision Mode had to be set only to "Good" to avoid the whole thing exploding.
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soup-sammich Featured By Owner Nov 24, 2017  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Awesome that it was an easy fix...  I've noticed that a lot of the rendering applications that include a physics engine all have their own occasional quirks.  Nothing ever seems to simulate the same...  That's why I prefer Marvelous Designer for my dynamics...  It's a simulator specific to clothing
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Sociopath1 Featured By Owner Nov 23, 2017
Damn, you're on a roll!
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soup-sammich Featured By Owner Nov 23, 2017  Hobbyist Digital Artist
A long holiday weekend provides plenty of time for Marvelous Designer! :D
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Neutral-Knievel Featured By Owner Nov 23, 2017  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
Very nice! Maybe I'll draw it onto one of my girls!
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soup-sammich Featured By Owner Nov 23, 2017  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Thanks!  Hope it works well for you!  Mind the heels, though...  It tends to stick if they're visible during the drape simulation...
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